Exotic Ammunition

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I have always been interested in the very best ammunition that could be bought or made as a reloader. I have always been convinced that it was more important to have a superior defensive bullet than to keep discussing which caliber is best. The chat rooms are still trying to fight out the caliber war and its like being caught in a revolving door with no exit. I have no particular winner in this fight of calibers as a 9mm and years ago a 38 special has probably put more people on ice than most any other caliber. I go back to the same record its bullet placement and the projectile you select. The rest is all BS.


There can be no compromise when it comes to your carry bullets. You want to use just plain ole lead, go right ahead, but not me. The old problem with most hollow point bullets that were and are not made with preliminary section cuts and will often not open. In the winter time when a hollow point would hit a leather jacket or heavy clothing the hollow cavity of the bullet would fill up with clothing material and never open. I have a fired Black Talon bullet that was the talk of the town years ago that never opened to expose the sharp fangs everyone compained about at a velocity of 990 feet per second.
The Black Talon got a bad rap from people that just did not get it. The velocity of 990 feet per second is not what I want in a self defense bullet. The old type jackets needed a minimum of 1000 feet per second to do their job and that is way below what I would want either years ago or today.


If I remember right the Super Vel Cartridge corporation started the new revolution in high performance ammunition. I believe its facility was located in Indiana and its founder and owner was a man named Lee E. Jurras. He started a totally different method of thinking and we have a great deal to be thankful to Lee and his efforts and he was right. His ammunition was sold in his famous yellow boxes. I know all the loads he used and I am going to write them now for you to print and save for your reference material. The following are the exact loading data that Lee used for his famous ammunition.

SUPER VEL LOADING DATA (THIS IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY)

45 acp (loaded length 1.140 inches)
190 grain Jacketed hollow point
7.5 grains of Unique powder
1061 feet per second
19,000 CUP

38 Super Auto
90 grain jacketed hollow point
9.0 grains of Unique powder
1580 feet per second
30,000 CUP

107 grain jacketed hollow point
8.0 grains of Unique powder
1430 feet per second
33,000 CUP

112 grain jacketed soft point
8.0 grains of Unique powder
1425 feet per second
33,000 CUP

90 grain loaded to an over all length of 1.150 inches.
107 and 112 grain loaded to an over all length of 1.200 inches.

9mm Parabellum
90 grain jacketed hollow point
5.0 grains of Winchester 230 powder
1422 feet per second
32,000 CUP

112 grain jacketed soft point
7.0 grains of Herco powder
1324 feet per second
28,000 CUP

380 acp
80 grain jacketed hollow point
3.3 grains of Bullseye powder
1018 feet per second
13,000 CUP

88 to 90 grain jacketed hollow point
3.0 grains of Bullseye powder
932 feet per second
13,000 CUP

The above loading data was a copy of the exact published loads by Lee Jurras of Super Vel Cartridge Fame.

Way back in the early days it was always rumored that CCI had hard primers and I honestly think that it was blown out of proportion because so many people do not know how to seat a primer low enough. Most primer pockets were never cleaned properly, they were just put in a rock tumbler in those early days and the old primer was never removed before cleaning. Today you have the luxury of using the best Vibrators to clean your brass. In order to identify a high primer let me suggest that to check your handloads you remove any 3 bullets out of a box of 50. Now get a flat diamond ladys nail file and run it accross the back over the case including the primer. If your primer is marked in any way due to the file, you have a high primer and in some cases you will find the primer is not set in straight. That is the number one reason for a failed primer, another words if it does not go bang you most likely have a high primer.


I had a very nice conversation with an engineer at the Speer laboratory yesterday and I was amazed to learn that Speer now has taken over 70% of the law enforcement sales.
I always try and check my facts in the event that my memory is not what it used to be. I have no problem talking to engineers in the gun business at any time. When I carried a SW model 60 on my ankle I needed a devastating bullet that I could depend on, so I loaded up 38 special bullets using hollow base wadcutters that, I INVERTED UPSIDE DOWN, that were made by Speer in a new case over 4.5 grains of Bullsyeye powder. (DO NOT USE THIS LOAD) I AM NOT RECOMMENDING THIS LOAD TO YOU OR ANYONE, ITS HOT AND I JUST CARRIED IT. I NEVER MADE THIS UP TO SIT AT A TARGET RANGE AND SHOOT ALL DAY. I CARRIED THIS EXOTIC ROUND TO USE TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY. I NEVER CARRIED A BULLET WITH OUT FIRST SEALING MY PRIMERS. I wrote a commentary a while back on how to seal your primers that is in the archives of this Blogger site. BURNING RATES OF THE SAME POWDER MAY VARY THRU DIFFERENT LOTS AND THRU DIFFERENT YEARS OF MANUFACTURE.


I had a friend named Joe Zambone who was the original owner of the Magsafe Ammunition Company. Joe sold the business but was sadly killed in an accident. I used to spend hours talking to Joe about these different Exotic loads that he made. My friend the Late Tom Ferguson of Gun World fame always carried very hot rounds as he and I were in total agreement along with Joe Zambone that it is the velocity and the design of the bullet and where the bullet is placed that is far more important than which caliber is best. Magsafe ammo is devastating and can still be purchased from the current owners of that company that are in Florida.


I have no doubt in my mind that advanced technology in bullet developement is here and if some one still wants to carry ball ammo that is sadly their misfortune.
The Cheytac company makes a rifle being used in Iraq by the US MARINES. It is a 408 caliber rifle that is capable of hitting a terrorist at 2700 yards and that limitation is due only to the need for a higher power quality scope. This very same bullet will penetrate a 1/2 inch plate of steel at 650 yards. Go to www.cheytac.com
This same company is making a 308 rifle for introduction to our military in order to protect this country, and that is you and me . The advancement in handgun ammunition is being made by Cheytac also. Please visit their website and see for your self.


I will only carry exotic ammunition that I feel comfortable with at this point in time as well as in the past. I no longer reload but I want super velocity that will not over penetrate, I want any bullet I use to Vaporize an organ going in and staying there in order to protect life and property in a very lawful manor. I have no illusions of the ammo that people use and carry. I do not like lead bullets and never use them under any circumstances. I do not want to lead any bore of mine, saving a few dollars that way is certainly not appealing to me.


This is a very interesting subject and I could talk and write about it all day but this is good for starters and I hope I have helped educate some of you. Having seen Full Metal Jacketed bullets in 9mm and 45 acp bounce off a car door has left an engraved impresssion in my mind forever. I refuse to be a victim, its that simple. I will gladly admit the dent the 45 acp made on the car door was bigger than the 9mm. The ammunition that I carry will zip thru the car door like a knife cutting butter.

For years I have thought that one of the best ways of creating a devastating bullet was to seal water in the hollow cavity of a bullet. This is not easy to do. I think if the water was already sealed in a ball or a cylinder and just inserted into the hollow cavity of the bullet and covered over with an industrial adhesive or an epoxy it would work. I no longer do any of this experimenting as this is just something I have always dreamed about. Many years ago I tried to seal water in a bullet cavity but now I realize it must be encapsulated first before its inserted. Just something to discuss.


AUTHORS PERSONAL NOTATION:
This commentary as well as all my previous commentaries are my personal opinion and my personal viewpoint only. I assume no liability and or responsibilty if you use the loading data mentioned as it is for discussion only.


Teddy Jacobson / Pistolsmith (semi retired)
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